What are Laser Excited Phosphor (LEP) Flashlights?

by Derrick James
laser excited phosphor flashlight
LEP light emitted from an Olight handheld flashlight. The light is sent through a green internal filter.

Laser excited phosphor (LEP) is a technology taking the flashlight market by storm, creating new capabilities for handheld lights. Let’s look at this new technology and see what it can do in a handheld tactical flashlight as compared to a traditional LED light. But first, let’s start with…

What is LEP?

Laser excited phosphor (LEP) is the process of emitting a blue laser through a focused lens onto a phosphor element backed by a metal substrate. The laser is then reflected (bounced) off the phosphor and converted to broad-spectrum light. In a flashlight, the resulting white light is directed out the end via a series of lenses.

laser excited phosphor diagram

This technology was developed by Tsinghua University, which has a research department devoted to photonics and electronics. The result of this process is an exceptionally tight spotlight with a very long throw (distance of beam), far more than you can get with a comparable LED flashlight.

Are LEP Flashlights Dangerous?

This question gets asked a lot, and it comes from the worry that the actual laser is going to cause damage to the eye. There is no danger from the laser damaging the eye by the fact that it’s a laser, but as with any very bright flashlight, you never want to look directly into it or flash it in anyone’s eyes. Unless, of course, you have to momentarily blind them for defensive purposes.

You should never point a light at any aircraft or other moving vehicle, but this is even more true with LEP lights because the throw is so much greater. A beam of LED light aimed at a vehicle in the distance will not have the same blinding effect as a focused LEP light. Likewise, don’t point it at mirrors, glass, or other reflective materials or you may find yourself temporarily blinded.

LEP Flashlight vs Tactical Flashlight

Preppers, shooters, law enforcement, etc. all might be wondering if LEP flashlights have inherent advantages over more traditional tactical flashlights that blanket the market. Let’s compare two similar lights to get an idea. I’m comparing the Olight Odin Turbo LEP light with its brother light, the Olight Odin.

Regular readers of this site know I am a fan of Olight tactical lights. You can read my many reviews of their other lights right here.

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When it comes to prepper products, I am a fan of both high quality and reasonable pricing. These two attributes are often at odds with one another, but – in my opinion – Olight does a good job at balancing between quality and price. Olight sent me the Odin Turbo for purposes of this analysis.

Olight’s Odin Turbo LEP Flashlight

Olight Odin Turbo
Olight Odin Turbo Unboxing

The Odin Turbo, like all Olight products, came well-packaged. Packaging may not matter to many, but if you ever want to give a tactical light as a gift, the presentation of the product is impressive.

Olight Odin Turbo unboxed
All of the many parts that come with the Odin Turbo, including: magnetic charging cable, picatinny mount, Allen wrench, magnetic remote switch, and mini zipties.

On the face of it, you would not see any difference between this light and other tactical lights, though the slightly larger size might stand out to the astute observer.

Odin Turbo vs Odin

Speaking of size, the difference is clear when the two lights are set side by side. The picture below is of both lights charging with the included USB magnetic charging cable. Note that the green light (top) on the Turbo indicates it is fully charged where as the red light on the Odin (bottom) indicates it is still charging – a nice feature.

2 lights charging
Size difference between the Odin Turbo LEP (top) and the Odin (bottom).

Cost Difference

Any LEP flashlight is going to come with a higher price tag, there’s no way around that. This is in part because it’s newer technology that has not reached the same economy of scale as LED lights, but also because they contain more expensive parts. At the time of this writing, the Odin Turbo has an MSRP of $249 whereas the Odin has an MSRP of $159.

Comparison of Specifications

The following table puts each light’s specifications side by side. Some of the numbers have a striking distance, but wait to see how the lights perform in real world testing (further below) before coming to any conclusions.

SpecificationOdin Turbo LEPOdin LED
Beam Distance (meters)1050300
Max Performance (lumens)3302000
Charge TypeMagnetic USB CableMagnetic USB Cable
BatteryCustom 5000mAh 3.6V 21700Custom 5000mAh 3.6V 21700
Lumens/Run Time Minutes (Level 1)330/30 180/150 90/302000/2 1000/9 760/125 300/24
Lumens/Run Time Hours (Level 2)90/7.5300/8
WaterproofIPX8IPX8
Weight (ounces)7.46.1
Length (inches)65.25

Looking directly at the bezel and into the two different lenses, the difference in the two lights’ inner construction becomes more apparent.

looking into lenses
Odin Turbo (left) vs Odin (right)

Throw Distance

What a light’s throw (the distance the beam can travel) is on paper and what it is in the field (figuratively and literally) are two different things, and this is where the difference between the two lights really starts to shine (no pun intended). The difference is dramatic!

The image on the left clearly displays the focused, narrow laser excited phosphor beam. You can see the laser beam in the air itself, giving the impression it’s almost like a lightsaber (if only). Now compare this to the picture on the right, the more conventional throw of the Odin tactical light.

In contrast, below are pictures I took of each light pointed at the ground from waist high.

Are LEP Flashlights Good as Weapon Lights?

“Tactical flashlights” are often synonymous with “weapon lights.” Given the striking difference in how a laser excited phosphor flashlight throws its light, the distance and shape of the beam, shooters and those interested in weapon lights for self-defense may be wondering what’s better, an LEP flashlight or an LED flashlight.

Based on the analysis, LEP flashlights are more specialized lights that, while they have their place, are not as good for firearms as the more standard LED tactical light. This comes with some caveats, however. As always, the mission at hand is what should drive the choice in tool. So, LEP flashlights will have their place, but for general use, LED flashlights are better if you are only going to have one light.

But there’s more to this than that. Let’s look at the factors specific to use of these lights when mounted on a firearm and used for shooting.

Size Factor

Both lights come with pressure switches and end caps, pictured below. The Odin Turbo’s size difference is notable. While it may not seem like a big difference when stashed inside a pack or held in your hand, at the end of a barrel you will notice it more.

two lights with pressure mounts

Attached to the end of the barrel (below) the size difference really stands out.

two lights mounted

Weight Factor

The images below indicate the weight differences. The Turbo comes in at 1.3oz heavier, which may not sound like much, but you can feel it when it’s at the front end of a barrel.

Beam of Light

The single biggest difference between the lights, as indicated before, is in the beam of light it shines. The pictures below illustrate the difference when shone against the house. The LEP Odin Turbo (left) shines exceptionally bright on a very small spot. The LED Odin (right) lights up the entire side of the house, the area around it, and the space in-between.

Looking at these two pictures, and imagining an active shooter situation, you can ask yourself: If I had to rely on one of these lights at the end of my barrel, which would I choose?

The LED Odin is going to light up the target better for faster acquisition. Further, if blinding light is your objective, the LEP flashlight will have to be dead set on the assailant’s eyes, which will require a more precise targeting of the beam. However, the LED light is going to blind simply by pointing it in the general direction.

The upside to each of these particular lights is that they share the same weapon mount. So, if you own one of each, you can swap lights out to match the mission.

Conclusion

Laser excited phosphor technology is an interesting development that’s quickly expanding into the flashlight market. It throws a very unique beam that is perfect in the right situations. It lacks the broad throw of a more traditional tactical light, but it’s not intended to be a general light, it’s intended (and designed) to be specialized. The Olight Odin Turbo is, in my opinion, a great LEP flashlight. If you prefer a more traditional tactical light, the Turbo’s older sibling, the Odin, is also a great choice.

Should You Buy an LEP Flashlight?

If you are only buying one light as your primary, EDC, tactical flashlight, an LEP light is probably not for you. Its very narrow beam will limit its applications as compared to a more traditional LED light. However, if you are looking to expand an existing collection of flashlights, buying one could expand your options and give you a light throw unlike anything you’ve seen before.

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68 comments

Gabriel zacchai May 26, 2021 - 5:27 pm

Advancements in LED tech are always fun and useful. I’m always on the search for a new/better compact flashlight for work as well as the range and tactical applications.
Pls send me one. I want it.

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Casey Brunsell May 28, 2021 - 8:28 pm

I d like to see this in person. Sounds interesting!

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b williams June 1, 2021 - 4:10 am

I’ve long been a led light slut. Price and battery run time are the most important factors but I must admit I’m intrigued.

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Peter Kasper May 27, 2021 - 2:27 pm

Good comparison and comments about these different lighting technologies. I’m in for the Olight sale this week to try the LEP performance.

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Damian May 28, 2021 - 4:30 pm

Like many tools, this flashlight has a unique and specialized purpose. I like how the beam can throw further, but the price and functionality of the flashlight compared to other LED models would be a downside.

Would love to have one for my collection!

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BJ May 29, 2021 - 11:47 pm

Interesting read. Average price for a good light. I would like to see a one for comparison.

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Duane Lyda May 28, 2021 - 12:02 pm

Such an awesome light!!

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Dean York May 28, 2021 - 12:40 pm

Great article. I’ve been looking at LEP lights for awhile now.

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Misti Harris May 28, 2021 - 1:01 pm

Put me in coach.

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Doug Ray May 28, 2021 - 1:40 pm

We live on a farm, this light would be nice when you need see the other side of the valley looking for cattle or predators without walking halfway across the field.

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Shawn Jones May 28, 2021 - 2:33 pm

I love the throw distance. It would be perfect for tactical use. The size is also perfect.

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Stephen May 28, 2021 - 3:32 pm

Here is your comment.

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Marc M May 28, 2021 - 3:58 pm

Well written article. LEP’s although not overly common do have their place and are a unique option for those that want to really reach out an touch someone or something with a beam of light.

I’ve seen them used in a few applications and they don’t disappoint. Unless it’s foggy.

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Josh May 28, 2021 - 3:59 pm

I’ve been looking at these lights for a while now…after reading this article I am seriously going to have to get one! Thanks for all the information!

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Chuck May 28, 2021 - 4:01 pm

Would like to test the distance out at the farm and see the beam spread at a greater distance.

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Derrick James June 9, 2021 - 1:35 pm

Chuck, you are the randomly-selected winner. Congratulations!

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Rob Mac Donald May 28, 2021 - 4:07 pm

Range, baby! This would be excellent for signaling, or really investigating an area before setting up camp.

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Tom May 28, 2021 - 4:08 pm

Very good article on the differences, although you could have gone into more detail on the specific uses of the LEP. Most of the situational comparisons favored thre LED over the LEP.

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Curt May 28, 2021 - 4:13 pm

The throw on that LEP is impressive!

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Troy Adams May 28, 2021 - 4:13 pm

I want one.

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David M May 28, 2021 - 4:15 pm

I love the throw distance but I’m sticking with my LED. Higher output at longer duration and wider throw is more important to me in an EDC. However, I can see the LEP being super useful on the water where you are scanning the horizon for a reflective marker at night or a blacked-out boat. Then the distance becomes more valuable.

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Stephanie May 28, 2021 - 4:18 pm

Incredible! Just the kind of light that would be useful for those late night barn checks!

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Joe Saffomilla May 28, 2021 - 4:20 pm

I’ve been looking at these for a while, this would be just the thing to get rid of the heavy bulky spot light, to get rid of those pesky coyotes around here. That beam throw is impressive, thanks for the information.

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Gunner P. May 28, 2021 - 4:23 pm

I do like the spotlight effect that it has. Definitely has tactical advantages.

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Robin May 28, 2021 - 4:28 pm

Great information, and I can definitely see the utility of this option!

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Denise May 28, 2021 - 4:29 pm

Wow! I’m very impressed! I learned a lot of great, informative information about these lights from your article. I live on a farm and have gone through a lot of lights that have never held up. When having to check on a noise outside at night, believe me, you want something that is dependable.

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Deb May 28, 2021 - 4:33 pm

Informative and down to earth review. Being a single woman, knocking hard on my 66th birthday, my eyes are not what they used to be. My dogs and I are getting ready to become full time mobile, so definitely see where this technology could be a life saver out in the middle of nowhere in the dark. Drives me crazy when I can’t see what they’re barking at in the middle of the night. Would be nice to see an intruder BEFORE they are up close and personal. Love the IF ONLY comment

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Jerod Husvar May 28, 2021 - 4:35 pm

It seems like a combination of the two types would be the ideal set up, but the extra weight would push me back to the LED until the LEPs can have a broader beam focus when needed. I am sure it will be developed in the future as the technology matures.

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Danny B. May 28, 2021 - 4:45 pm

The LEP light looks to be ideal for a long range investigation on a rural property where you might want to keep track of a specific target such as a shed housing items that have been prey to thieves. The standard LED would be preferable in a shorter range over a larger field of view, and probably most situations. However having both would give you the best of both.

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David Hull May 28, 2021 - 4:48 pm

Thanks for the astute observations that spending more money on the newest tech doesn’t always mean best application. I’ll stick with the OG till they find a way to change the narrow beam. Heck the old school lights have a lens that you can twist and change narrow to wide? Why not this new tech?

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Jason Dolan May 28, 2021 - 4:52 pm

Looks like Olight is putting out a specific light for a specific purpose. Can’t wait to see how this tech develops. Currently running and Odin LED on my rifle, couldn’t ask for a better light.

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Glenn Andersen May 28, 2021 - 4:55 pm

I have the Odin LED on my “Gucci” AR platform but would like to see first-hand how this LEP performs. Keep in mind that this is still new technology and it wasn’t that long ago I had a 3 D-Cell Maglite on my duty belt that I could use as a baton! Early LED’s were a joke, but now are mainstream. The same technology evolution in LEP is inevitable.

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Derrick James May 28, 2021 - 5:08 pm

A Gucci AR!? Sounds rich!

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Andy B. May 28, 2021 - 5:06 pm

Well written, truthfully balanced pro/con article. As I have a NOVA LED, this Odin would also be welcome in my kit. Thanks for the opportunity!

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David C. May 28, 2021 - 5:17 pm

A bright light in a compact size I’m alway down for that, plus LASERS!

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tom mellan May 28, 2021 - 5:18 pm

useful info would depend on mission which would be better suited,

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Loyce Scott May 28, 2021 - 5:29 pm

What great concept I would love to win this flashlight.

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William D May 28, 2021 - 5:41 pm

What I like about LEP flashlights is their bright full-spectrum illumination in an energy saving and low maintenance form factor!

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Carlos May 28, 2021 - 5:56 pm

It’s a tool for a more narrow focus. Am sure that may change as more advances are made. Will stick with the LED For now

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Mark Lemm May 28, 2021 - 6:33 pm

Looks like a light sabre.

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Walter May 28, 2021 - 6:39 pm

Looks like an ideal light for home defense

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Leslie G May 28, 2021 - 6:42 pm

Great article. The LED looks like it would be a better all purpose light, but the reach with the LEP would definitely be a benefit in some situations. Love to have one!

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John Cassidy May 28, 2021 - 6:42 pm

The LEP technology is totally new to me. I plan to do additional research.

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Sean N May 28, 2021 - 7:08 pm

Well written and researched article. I feel guilty for entering the giveaway.

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Jeffry May 28, 2021 - 8:01 pm

Great article very informative on the two different flashlights. For me I’ll go for the LEP style for EDC and outdoor use.

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Michael May 28, 2021 - 9:41 pm

This is a Deal. For a really powerful light. The long range beam is an excellent feature. I like the lightweight and the fact that the company stands behind there products. Saving energy is a plus!

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Sandra H May 28, 2021 - 10:03 pm

This looks like a super cool accessory to go in our hunting supplies! I think the magnetic charger and the remote will be quite handy! Can’t wait to get this LEP flashlight to give us a lighting option!

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Steven Phillips May 28, 2021 - 10:36 pm

Love the extremely long throw. Need a bit more floyd though.

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florence May 29, 2021 - 12:07 am

it could be handy to see far out in the field. sounds like it would be good, maybe i will win. lol

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Thomas May 29, 2021 - 7:43 am

I like the tight beam of this light. I`d love to win it because I can`t afford to buy one like this.

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Daniel aka Grumpy Neighbor May 29, 2021 - 12:34 pm

Looks like an awesome light to have while hunting, or on night watch of my property.

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Keith R. May 29, 2021 - 12:50 pm

Great info! Super curious about that super-tight throw. The distance is impressive, but not sure if the lack of spill is actually a benefit. Your pictures were worth a thousand words!

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Andy May 29, 2021 - 1:09 pm

I appreciate the throw distance on these! Always useful!

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Joe May 29, 2021 - 1:14 pm

I’d like to know how the LEP shines in water. Might be good for spearing.

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William Hamilton May 29, 2021 - 1:15 pm

This flashlight is next generation of tactical lights. The distance that it can shine with the brightness is second to none. Its also sexy as hell. Its just sleek and looks good. I would be proud to have one on my weapon system.

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John Burgin May 29, 2021 - 9:08 pm

Looks interesting. Never heard of them til now but technology is always moving forward. Thanks for the article

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Ken May 30, 2021 - 1:42 am

Amazing technology. If only the nuclear powered version was available now. Wouldn’t have to worry about recharging batteries.

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M. Walker May 30, 2021 - 6:50 am

Well, I have been faithfully using Coast flashlights for most of my career. Their latest rechargeable is failing to impress me. I’d be willing to check some competitors tech.

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David Aune May 30, 2021 - 7:38 pm

Sweet lite!

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Larry B May 31, 2021 - 11:05 pm

Seems like a cool light, but I am not sure what the advantage is of the high intensity spot over the seemingly more usable beam from the tactical light. I like the charging setup and love the gift case.

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Jason June 1, 2021 - 4:33 pm

Here I thought LED was going to be the last tech innovation in flashlights. Science FTW! Spiffy write-up. I really appreciated the side-by-side comparisons. Both lights are amazing in their application. I imagine in a year or so, the Turbo will be smaller than the Odin LED. Besides tactical, LEP has quite the potential for survival scenarios.

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Kat June 2, 2021 - 3:36 am

He throw is fantastic

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Timothy Owen June 30, 2021 - 6:07 am

LEPs are very cool. Why choose one? Hang a LEP and a LED on your rails; not as if they are large or heavy.

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steeve March 15, 2022 - 11:58 am

I recently had the pleasure of trying out a few diferent “laser” or lep lights. I love torches, the weirder the better, Whilst the 1.2km throw is nice, theres no application i can think that its useful for.
Its too tight to show anything outside the beam within normal eyesight, and anything that is within the normal eyesight range is way too hot to be able to see without eye strain.
The only application I could think of was maybe hunting? But if you have a really bright light burning a hole thru the darkness it would spook anything your trying to hunt? Maybe itd be good for burning the paint off the chinese space station as it flys past? lol I dunno. I just wish theyd make a broad size lep ie 6 inch at least. That way the hot spot is more diluted in the center and it would be more practical for i dunno police choppers???

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Derrick James March 15, 2022 - 4:17 pm

lol – Chinese space station. I agree, it’s too tight for most uses.

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Steeve March 15, 2022 - 12:01 pm

The other problem with ysing it on a rail for hunting is, you loose all situational awareness. Because your eye is focused so far away and the beam is soo tight, its like looking thru a tube. There is Zero Spill like an led so yeah, you may not get 1.2kms throw on the led, but the led will light up your surroundings at the least a little so you can change or react to your surroundings etc.

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Rasbazz October 3, 2022 - 12:45 pm

I just got a Lumintop Thor lll LEP (200$) direct and the wow factor is way up there but the no spill and ultra pencil beam as was mentioned if to get only one or the other the LEP is not a good idea. I noticed there are mfg’s starting to combine LEP and LED’s on one flashlight. In a format of 4 LEDS and a LEP in the center that will be the ultimate thrower. Something like a Imalent MS18 (100,000 lumin) which has decent throw because of pure muscle but pretty much a flood light would be amazing. A brand I can’t remember the name but the lights name is like NightOwl pro I believe has a dual flashlight head version with two LEP’s 4000m (600$) then another made with LED’s regular (250$) so figure a LEP LED combo would be the next step if they don’t already have it. Owleyes W Pro is the lights name that I just remembered and the mfg’s name is Maxtoch. If you are a flashaholic a LEP is a must have no matter what the collection is incomplete. As the article mentioned time will get more flashlights with LEP tech in them at better prices. That has already happened a decent amount since the writing of this article and seems like one area of development is in smaller size EDC style. I’ve only had the Thor lll a few days and so far have not had a large enough of an area to see how far it really can distance out to. It’s specs say 2500m so I’ll need a mile with no buildings or of absolute most importance people in between. For two bills it was worth it. I wish I would have seen this article back when it was written. Would have saved me allot of research time and guesswork. lol

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Derrick James October 4, 2022 - 7:22 pm

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